Did you just decide to come talk smack about TTAG and randomly pick this topic? As others-and yourself-have pointed out, Springfield and Rock River Arms ARE the IFMA. Flame on, POTG, for my disagreeing with the “quick to respond masses”. Yes, they mentioned the NRA and the Illinois State Rifle Association in their statements. I read that last paragraph in the same way I hear southerners say “bless your heart.”. I find the finish to the article very bizarre. Everyone wants to help after being busted to the public. Not everyone is jumping on the kill SA/RRA bandwagon, it would seem. RRA’s co-founder is Chuck Larson, who is also IFMA’s treasurer. Make a donation to these pro gun groups who are doing the work you say you support to the tune of twice what you paid the lobbiests! “You’re not answering my question, Jay. Sure, they may have funded IFMA with hundreds of thousands of dollars FOR YEARS, but they were totally in the dark about the carve-out deal. Looking up J Alexander Hunt, their only client is Chicagoland Speedway. I’m a huge fan. He didn’t know they were getting a carve out? As I entered the Rock River Arms booth I half-expected to see new versions of last yearâs AR-15s and the crow I ate tasted great. Mike and Valinda Rowe spent countless hours working the rail on behalf of IllinoisCarry. John Boch made it pretty clear in the article that he thought things were hinky in January. Arizona doesn’t fight alone.). It is not law. We faced this bill last session in the Illinois General Assembly. âThe idea to switch from Rock River to Adams Arms was pushed from the bottom up,â Gualtieri said. We rallied the troops. It would seem so. http://lobbying-firms.insidegov.com/l/41251/J-Alexander-Hunt-Inc. As far as who’s on the IFMA corporation, when you create a company you have to list officers and have an annual meeting. The biggest gun group in MI is full of Fudds. Then they were caught. All content is posted anonymously by employees working at Rock River Arms. In December 2003, after outperforming 10 other manufacturers in rifle abuse tests, Rock River Arms was awarded a contract with the Drug Enforcement Administration for a minimum of 5,000 LAR-15 rifles to be purchased over five years. Rock River Arms. We ask not your counsels or arms. So now it will have to be taken up in the court’s and run the gauntlet to the federal. SA imports their firearms. Springfield Armory has jumped into the gun rights fight in Illinois. I think what John means is that SAI & RRA now have the opportunity to put their money where their mouths are and put their big boy pants on and TRULY help to stop this bill. Instead of being self-righteous here, and patting yourself on the back, thank those they REALLY wanted an XD or M1A but will now forego them to make a statement. They sold you folks out. The important part of the article is the info, not the wink at the end. Item must ship to an FFL dealer. He _had_ to have been directed to take no poisition. Springfield Armory, like Rock River Arms, was not aware of the actions taken by our trade association, IFMA, until after the fact. They are a cancer meant to divide us for personal gain. But they failed to mention Illinois Carry, the Illinois Federation for Outdoor Resources and Guns Save Life, all of which have worked hard in Springfield, putting in hundreds of lobbying hours fighting against Second Amendment infringements like SB-1657. Here’s my reply: Please unsubscribe me from all correspondence from your company. Go on, let’s go.”. 1 freaking vote was the difference, let that sink in. From Springfield Armory, the Larsons went into partnership with Les Baer to form Les Baer Custom and build custom 1911 pistols. He repeated his SHOT line a third time, parrot-like, before walking away. Because otherwise, their time as a business could be just as fleeting as some of the others of the past. Use them for the fight now, make them crash and burn when the fight is over. Rock River Arms builds some of the highest quality firearms available today. “Welcome, Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms, Whatever has happened up to now, I welcome these two companies to the front lines of the fight for gun rights in Illinois. Rock River Arms RUK-15 Stag Arms 15 Super Varminter 6.8 SPC. To quote Ace Rothstein: “Listen, if you didn’t know you were being scammed you’re too freakin’ dumb to keep this job, if you did know, you were in on it. But people must learn that actions have consequences. They didn’t know the efforts of their own lobbyists working with politicians on a bill that would directly affect them? Absolutely correct about the names on the Articles of Incorporation. He’s much more forgiving than I would be. Founded in 1996. What he said. It still must pass the House. (And FYI, I have donated to AZCDL even though I am a resident of Montana, and I doubt that I am the only non-resident to do so. I just scratched the XD from my list of contenders for my next purchase. There are way too many options out there, so spend your money elsewhere. Bravo. http://www.azcdl.org/html/accomplishments.html. Glad to see you’re coming around, Boch, and trying to welcome back one of best firearm manufacturers in the fight against anti-gun bills, as they’ve promised to do. BTW if you think this is good for TTAG’s ad revenue you’re crazy. You’ve pretended to be a “reporter” but didn’t do the due diligence of one and get other sources for your story. by rich.tullo on Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:56 pm I would pick them over a Les Baer , I hear the wait at one time was crazy but if they are holding to their word they are nice. Go back to their original statements, it was all deny, deflect, make counter accusations. Springfield Armory has fought and defeated legislation like this in Illinois for the past 15 years. Never. You just wrote that IFMA was there fighting until nearly the end, when IFMA mysteriously went missing. Rock River Arms, Inc.® (RRA) wants to assure the Illinois (and national) firearms community that we are still 100 percent opposed to the Gun â¦ While the .300 AAC Blackout has continued to grow in popularity among shooters, the new LAR-300 X-1 rifle from Rock River Arms takes the cartridge to a whole new level of performance. Even more damning is the fact that the lobbyist Jay Keller stated “No Position”. Thousands. No matter how you cut it it all stinks. After the story they had plenty of times that they could have made an apology. It’s not too late. I hope they can somehow magically stop this bill (for their sake…I own some SA products I like a lot), but I doubt it and I along with many others will hold them accountable if they don’t. Welcome, Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms. Their responses reek of panic and damage control. However, we are not open to the public for direct sales. I may go back to carrying my heavy Kimber rather than the lighter Springfield just on principles…..what’s a little more back pain.  At the same time, Rock River Arms began to build AR-15 style rifles. I am agahst at this whole mess. I’m with Bob Owens on this one. We value your participation.”. @FlamencoD, of all the things we might call you, Fudd would be the nicest. They work out of hotel rooms here in the heart of flyover country, pounding our legislators relentlessly along with our own homegrown gun control groups. The fact is that the lobbying organization was the sole property of SA and RRA. He asked for proof. It contained some explicit comments. Yeah, like anyone in their right mind would trust them now. Pretty sure I’ve seen Springfield ads here, for that matter. If not then Mr. Boch may need to see a doctor. OUT OF STOCK (4) LWRC SIX8-A5 6.8 SPC. I say top heads should roll at both companies and their board members should stand up and change the culture. We can certainly use their help. Otherwise… what’s your investment with these companies. I’ll bet they care now. I replied to them. rock river arms (in stock) 5.0 (1) forged a4 upper receiver assembly. Illinois doesn’t need socialists like these guys. See our full line of Rock River rifles here at Impact Guns! Putting it aside to put ball in their court to step up and defeat this bill (i.e. The X-1 has existed in 5.56 NATO for a few years now, but the jump into the .300 BLK chambering figures to be another huge leap forwar… What the hell is this? Why don’t we just ask Bob Owens? As I entered the Rock River Arms booth I half-expected to see new versions of last year’s AR-15s and the crow I ate tasted great. Which implies everything. So What Happened At Rock River Arms & Springfield Armory??? The largest free gun classifieds on the web. Also there: IFMA’s paid lobbyist Jay Keller…right up until last Thursday, when Mr. Keller went missing. 2nd Amendment Supporters are up in 'Arms' pun intended about the news broken by The Truth About Guns â¦ No remorse there. You welcome them to the front lines of the fight? You won’t see my money until I see yours in the hands of the groups doing the work you should have done! 2,000 members? These pistols are commonly available in the $400 to $500 range, or around half the price of a Colt. And if you believe the drivel these liars are feeding you, you deserve the gestapo kicking down your doors!! Damn I wish I could afford to move a mile east into Hoosierland…. -earlier reporting by TTAG confused actions on behalf of one client with another Thanks RF! (Colona, IL) On Friday, April 5, 2013 Rock River Arms President, Mark Larson passed away at the age of 50. Why did Springfield and Rock River Arms wait until Monday to issue a response? Must be 21 to purchase. 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